We had this conversation a couple of weeks ago with the minister.
The reports on the ground would indicate that there are somewhere between 1,200 and 1,500 truly independents, but it's really difficult to know, given the landscape in British Columbia.
Of course, on the east coast—and I referenced it in my remarks—there are challenges, but the bulk of the people are independent owner-operators, and that is what keeps our coastal communities going.