Certainly we are seeing more severe fines. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not an expert on what other remedies might be out there, but I think the values are going up. Given the severity of some of the infractions, I think we want to see that. Definitely some infractions are more severe than others and can have a devastating effect on a species.
One of the things I'd like to offer to the committee is that if someone's charged and receives a very stiff penalty, you'll find that it trickles down pretty quickly in the fishing community and hopefully brings other people into line. This is what we're advocating, and we will continue to advocate it because we have a whole new generation of fishers who want to make fishing their number one career and be able to feed their families and provide an income, and we need to preserve that resource for them.