Yes, I made that statement.
When we talk about skills and labour and we talk about Alaska being more efficient than the Prince Rupert plant, there is no comparison. You can get just as good material in Alaska as you can in the Rupert plant, but when you don't do it in the Rupert plant and you do it in Alaska, then the competition becomes unfair.
Then Rupert imported, and Sunnyside, North Pacific, and the other cannery followed. We were the transient workers who went there. We established ourselves. We made an income. We made a living. Then we stayed there.
Jim Pattison wants to do that in Alaska, and that is exactly what he's doing. His workforce is loaded with transient workers. That is how he is making his money.
It's the same way with fishing. The prices didn't stay low by themselves; they stayed low because they needed them to stay low. When they do that, whoever is in charge of selling and reaping the benefits of selling product, if he's managed to keep the prices low on buying it, and doubles, triples, quadruples the price on selling it, he's going to be making money, but the poor people who fished it will remain the same as they always have.