I suppose the first thing to do would be to look at what has been done elsewhere—in other words, as I indicated in my opening remarks, what I would call best practices internationally. We have scientists in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and the United States who have processes to establish these limit and target reference points based on science alone. I noted that—if I interpreted the remarks correctly—the department indicated that a harvest control rule would be established by an interaction between DFO and industry. That's perhaps reasonable, but of course industry is only one of the stakeholders in determining what a harvest control rule might look like.
I'm veering away slightly.
I guess my point is, to follow up on what Josh said, that other countries have been using science to a greater and greater extent, and I think this should give a lot of encouragement to government, to the department, to be consistent with what other countries are doing.