Evidence of meeting #3 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subcommittee.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jeffery Hutchinson  Deputy Commissioner, Strategy & Shipbuilding, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Mario Pelletier  Deputy Commissioner, Operations, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Chandonnet

5 p.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

Mr. Chair, is it possible to get some email addresses and send something off-line? I don't have the names with me, but I have some I can suggest once I get home.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Yes, absolutely.

I only say this because I'm trying to stress that they want to get working. If you have an obvious choice of a witness, send it ASAP, please, so that they can start working on it.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

I just need to be able to reach the clerk.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

The clerk will provide his email address. You can send that in ASAP, even though we have a deadline of Thursday. But if there is anyone else you're looking to bring in as a witness, you have until 5 o'clock on Thursday.

Mr. Donnelly.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

Mr. Chair, I think that's a great suggestion. We're happy to get our list in as soon as possible, i.e., hopefully today we'll email it. If it's open until Thursday at 5 o'clock, if there are others we have forgotten or others that have requested, we'll add those on, but we'll take your lead and get those in ASAP.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Okay.

Go ahead, Mr. Morrissey.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Mr. Chair, this is for witnesses just on that particular topic.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Correct. It's just for the motion we passed regarding the station on the west coast, the MCTS station, and that study.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

If we chose, after that deadline, to bring in other witnesses we identify, do we have that...?

No? It's cut off at that point?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

That's why I like to do deadlines, Mr. Morrissey, for that reason, so that we don't have to bring people in at the last minute. It's logistically difficult to do if you're bringing them in from far away. We are dealing with a study on the west coast.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

So it's on that issue.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Yes, on that issue. We'll deal with other issues when we get down the road.

Just for clarification, here's what I'm proposing as far as the study is concerned. It was brought to my attention from some people with more experience than I have in dealing with this that we have a departmental briefing, which we just had from the Coast Guard, and DFO will be in on Thursday.

Following that, we usually have a meeting dedicated only to committee business so that we can decide on a study we'd like to do. In other words, it's post departmental briefings and so on and so forth. It gives us some ideas, some food for thought, on what we would like to study in the future.

I'm proposing that on March 8 we have a day of committee business to discuss possible studies and future work. Then on March 10 we would begin our study of the MCTS stations on the west coast. That was the motion we passed. It had been brought forward by Wayne Stetski.

Mr. Donnelly, I believe you have something to say.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

I might. I would put forward a process that you may wish to consider, Mr. Chair.

In the past at fisheries committee we have gone into subcommittee to look at our priorities, have a discussion among the parties, and then bring forward recommendations to the larger committee.

If that's something you would like to entertain, I'm certainly happy to make a motion to that effect.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

I'm perfectly willing to entertain it. We had a discussion last week and we said that this particular committee intends to do things with all members included. So you're suggesting going to the subcommittee and making the decision, which will come back to the full committee afterwards.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

Just to clarify, Mr. Chair, we'd be making the recommendation as opposed to the decision.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Oh, yes, of course. My apologies. That's what I meant. You just corrected me, and I thank you for it.

Ms. Jordan.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bernadette Jordan Liberal South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

I was under the impression at the very first meeting that we voted against doing that. At the first meeting, we said we would not form a subcommittee and that we would just all make that decision. I think that was what was decided at the first meeting. I don't have the notes in front of me for that meeting, but that was my memory of it.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

I think you're proposing a motion to change that. Is that correct?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bernadette Jordan Liberal South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

We had a motion that we approved.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

You can vote at any time you wish. A motion is a motion.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

Just to clarify there, I think the issue was that it would be in camera. The discussion would happen and it would happen in camera. My suggestion, if all parties agree to this, is that the in camera part would be a subcommittee and then it would bring it back to an open meeting of the entire committee.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

It would be public.

Ms. Jordan.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bernadette Jordan Liberal South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

What's the structure of the subcommittee?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

The subcommittee comprises the chair, two vice-chairs, and two members of the Liberal Party, whose names are to be supplied.

I'm looking for more input. Is there anything else from that?

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Fin Donnelly NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

I'll make that motion if I can get a seconder.