Mr. Lapointe, I appreciate your point about the Ottawa. I didn't imply that there were no issues. It's just the fish biomass is still fairly high.
Mr. Browne, you talked about fisheries habitat offsets. I'm a big fan of that. I think that our recreational fisheries conservation partnership program is a good first step and I think could be expanded dramatically.
Mr. Browne, you talked about outcomes-based policy. The new Fisheries Act, as we wrote it...and I was there and there were hearings, by the way, with outside groups. I was on the fisheries committee at the time. We based the new Fisheries Act on fish production and productivity. Nothing is easy in fisheries, but it's something you can measure to a certain extent. Isn't a good outcome fish production, healthy fish communities and lots of them? Is that a reasonable outcome?