Well, certainly we see a link between outside corporate fleets, if you want to put it that way, coming in and fishing in waters that they don't have that local knowledge on. They bring in their fleets from outside. That's what I referred to in my comments about the independent owner-operators being closely tied to the ecosystem. These are fishermen who have inherited their licences from their great-great-grandfathers, going back as long as non-native people have lived on our shores. Nobody who is operating a corporate boat based out of Vancouver, for example, or Yarmouth or Halifax, coming into our waters, is going to have that kind of knowledge.
That is the link: the people who have been fishing those waters for generations. They learned about these spawning grounds from their fathers. We have a great deal of independent science on identifying these areas and recording this traditional knowledge that the fishermen have.