We've been working on this for 20 years. We had these really good policies saying that the fishing licences go to the individuals and that the individuals have to fish them themselves and live in coastal communities. We need that for the social and economic development of our coastal communities. It hasn't been working. People have been finding workarounds. We come up with all kinds of measures with the department that are on the policy side of things. They're not in the regulations or the legislation, and they don't work.
I was talking to the person in the department responsible for this last week, and he said they'd devised a Rube Goldberg machine to deal with this, and I didn't know what a Rube Goldberg machine was.