The government has always been very warm to point out the number of first nations that are involved.
One of the endeavours that I've pursued in the past couple of years has been developing the first nations wild salmon alliance. I can say to you quite clearly that there are about 150 first nations that are clearly opposed to open net-cage fish farms. What has happened is that the Cohen commission makes it clear that the potential to infringe on the Fraser River first nations, right up to the headwaters, where the outward-migrating smolts have the potential to die at fish farms because of sea lice disease and what have you.... As you know as well as I do, that triggers the duty to consult.
What has happened is the government has put in place regulations and management practices where they did not consult with first nations at all, and there was a potential infringement on their rights. That's why I've been advancing to the DFO minister that we re-engage and we take this opportunity, with the commitments that the Prime Minister has made, to engage with first nations so that everybody can be mindful of everyone's rights and of what it means when you have a cumulative impact on a run of fish coming out of the Fraser.