I think that out of respect for our witnesses it's probably getting time for us to end.
To all of our witnesses, I'm reminded of the saying, those with weak stomachs should watch neither law nor sausages being made. Drawing laws in our country is very complicated and we tend to get into these very arcane discussions about process. Necessary though they are, they sometimes take time.
I'll do a quick introduction of our witnesses.
We have Dr. David Schindler, Killam memorial professor emeritus, University of Alberta. By video conference from Vancouver, from the First Nations Fisheries Council, we have Brenda Gaertner. The Nunavut Wildlife Management Board is with us. By video conference from Toronto, from the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, we have Lesley Williams and Matthew Picard. From the Pacific Streamkeepers Federation, we have Zo Ann Morten with us.
I'll go in the order of the witness list and I'll ask Dr. David Schindler to be the first witness. Dr. Schindler, we're having some technical difficulties. We can't hear you.