Well, I go to a retirement party about every day. People are leaving en masse. The corporate knowledge loss right now is absolutely huge. The people who came into Fisheries and Oceans Canada and are nearing the end of their careers at 30 years had a passion for fish and fish habitat and for the people. Now we are losing that corporate knowledge. They feel they are not able to protect anymore. They're feeling that they can't look people like me in the eye and say they're doing the best that they can. It's making a difference.
On December 7th, 2016. See this statement in context.