Right, so I don't know what to tell you. I've heard stories about Sweden and Scotland. Scotland does have a lot of seals, incidentally, along their coast, and people don't realize that. They've just become a nuisance species; therefore, the cull has to be made.
At Hyde Park in London, there was a British MP who was at a committee meeting several years ago that I was at, and he showed some compassion towards the general argument. He said, “You know, we actually cull a type of deer in the park because they just become too many and they conflict with the human population. Of course we do it humanely. If we went out there and clubbed them or shot them, I'm sure there'd be a huge outburst.” But the animal is still, at the end of the day, dead.