I think we want him to come and defend his estimates on the 19th but I don't think that will fulfill the request of this committee to have him appear on his mandate letter. Obviously there are going to be discussions about the department at that meeting, but I think we want to encourage the minister to be here as much as possible.
If we are told this is the day, take it or leave it, then we want to take it for the main estimates, but I think that request for him to appear on his mandate letter remains in place until he comes to a meeting for that purpose. So that can be for future business, absolutely.