I have just a very quick comment, and it's to everyone in the room there.
I think one of the things we are really seeing is that there's a lack of science. For a variety of reasons, a lot of the science that was going on, either annually or every couple of years, has been lacking for a lot of major species. I think that's something that should be part of the discussion also, that we are just starting to get caught up on some science.