Scientist said about 30%, I think, is one of the key objectives. From the standpoint of spatial protection, 10% is probably not enough but I also think that we have other management measures, whether it's through shipping, fisheries management, or marine planning, that we can put in place and that will help us get to more protection.
We have more protection from some industries. I think that has to be considered, but 30% is the figure the world is sort of landing on, based on a lot of scientific advice and what other countries are doing.
The U.S. has set aside about 32% in marine protected areas, and 3% of that is “no take”. That gives a fair amount of leeway for some low-level sustainable activities to continue to happen. We know that already our MPAs tend to be zoned for low-level fishing activity. My view is that 75% needs to be “no take” to have actual biodiversity protection.