I can speak briefly to that.
I think one thing to note is that, when anybody has been given something to do that they actually feel good about and feel like they are given direction on, the productivity increases. I fully understand that DFO is stretched and staff are stretched on this marine conservation target. At the same time, they are working hard and getting things done under the current budget.
We do know that DFO has been cut several times over the last decade. We've cut science. We've cut enforcement. We've cut fisheries management. I don't have a number, but maybe Bill does because he's closer to the Green Budget Coalition recommendations. However, I think the other thing is that you can make things happen much more quickly, if you have good process and you have dedicated staff. That process piece is key because the longer DFO staff have to take to come to an agreement on a particular protected area, the more money it's going to take and the more staff time.