Thanks. I'm really not the person to answer that question, unfortunately, but I do appreciate your focus on what is known as shifting baselines. You heard from Dr. Daniel Pauly who invented that term. I just want to say it wasn't only when John Cabot came here. When the habitat provisions of the Fisheries Act were being debated, an MP from Nova Scotia's south shore said that the stocks were so depleted that it was almost cause for a national holiday if salmon was caught in his river.
Minister Roméo LeBlanc in the same debate over the Fisheries Act and new habitat spoke about how Atlantic salmon that used to crowd the banks of eastern rivers had been reduced to a fraction of their former size, and how over 70% of habitat had been lost from the world's most important salmon river, the Fraser.
I'm not the cod scientist. I'm not one of the Fisheries management experts we have here, but I do think that this phenomenon of shifting baselines is really critical. If you look at historical photographs, you see the size of fish that people caught compared to today. We need to establish MPAs so we can get this baseline information. Actually, we're too late for that in a lot of cases. How can we get the original historical baseline? It's pretty hard.