Evidence of meeting #66 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was process.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mark Carr  Professor, Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of California, Santa Cruz, As an Individual
Byng Giraud  Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Country Manager - Canada, Woodfibre LNG Ltd

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Prof. Mark Carr

Yes.

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Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Who made up the stakeholders?

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Prof. Mark Carr

They were meant to be representatives of as many groups as possible that had a vested interest in ocean activities, so there were various recreational and commercial fisheries.

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Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Industry?

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Prof. Mark Carr

Sorry?

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Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Industry? First nations?

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Prof. Mark Carr

Oh, yes. There were first nation representatives, some of the state and federal agencies that had responsibility for managing marine ecosystems, conservation groups, NGOs, and non-governmental conservation organizations. They crafted it by making groups, with each of those different interests represented in a group. Then they had multiple groups within each of the regions of the coast, and each of those groups generated their own design of a network. They got into it, as to who had the coolest network design that met the guidelines, but also was amenable to the various stakeholder interests.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Thank you, Dr. Carr.

Your turn, Mr. Arnold.

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Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I have a question for both of you.

The indications are that this government may try to speed up the process of establishing the MPAs here in Canada, possibly to as little as 18 months. Can proper consultation and consideration take place in 18 months with all of the groups and stakeholders?

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Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Country Manager - Canada, Woodfibre LNG Ltd

Byng Giraud

With respect to what happened in California, the short answer is that we have to layer on the fact that our indigenous peoples are recognized in the constitution and we just can't treat them as another stakeholder. We have to start there, so that's going to add time.

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Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

It's true.

Yes, Mr. Carr.

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Prof. Mark Carr

It sounds tight. Eighteen months sounds like a short period of time, but it just depends on the capacity of the planning process to bring those people together—how quickly and how frequently you can come to some level of consensus in what you generate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Scott Simms

Thank you, Mr. Arnold. Thank you, colleagues.

I want to thank our guests for some great information and advice, and certainly some clear instruction as to how we should proceed. We take it very well.

Thank you.

I want to thank Byng Giraud and Dr. Carr. Thank you for travelling the distance you have. I understand that you have other events too, but we certainly appreciate your being here for our study.

Colleagues, we're going to suspend for just a minute or so and then we'll get to committee business.

Thank you again to our witnesses.

[Proceedings continue in camera]