In Atlantic Canada—so you will note that that's a national brief, it's high level—there is a very active lobster fishery, and sometimes it's the only major industry. I honestly don't know how we're going to get long-term spatial no-take. I can see that in some of our coastal communities where there's a very short lobster season, maybe two months, having 10 months where there's no activity should in some ways be equivalent to a significant no-take. I will say this is my opinion only. It is not that of any other NGO, but we need to look at some of the low-impact fishing, because what I hear from fishermen is that you're trying to close these areas to them, and they're the ones who need to be protected. I hear that. I am listening. I take it seriously.
I do think that we need to look at what the threats are, and how those fishermen are stewards of the area are at the end of the day. It's their livelihood, and if their values are to continue this into the future, then they can be much more helpful in terms of stewardship, and we can't alienate them.