Of course, for a recreational fishery, gear can be regulated. For example, the kind of gear used to catch rockfish could be banned, and there could be surface trolling for salmon, for example, off the B.C. coast.
I happen to be a fisheries biologist myself. The hooking mortality for Atlantic salmon, in particular, is almost zero, and for other salmonid species, it's in the 5% range, so I think these kinds of blanket statements need to be supported by fact. We had an earlier witness last year on this who was aware of the situation in California, where there is a great number of MPAs, and they are all in very prime fishing areas, and remote and rural communities that depended on tourism were severely affected by this kind of policy.
Dr. Ban, you also talked about co-management with aboriginal communities, and that's fine, yet you completely ignored the other coastal communities and whether they should be part of a co-management program. Don't you think they deserve the same kind of consideration?