I think this is a result of my looking at the scientific literature on this, and I quoted one study my testimony, where they've looked at that type of thing.
I think the point is that if you have access to what we would call “traditional fisheries management” tools for how we manage this, and you can effectively enforce them—it would be a combination of the two, I think—you can achieve everything you want as far as restoring or maintaining those fisheries is concerned, and not allowing them to be fished or areas to be closed.
That's what the scientific information data would tell us in all the reviews that I've done.