No take will be probably between 2% and 3%, so one-third of the 7.75% is no take, because the different tools that we use are used for different purposes or meaning. For example, for fisheries closures, the conservation objectives are not at the same level as the conservation measures under a national marine conservation area or under the MPA. Our role is to find the best legislative or regulatory tool to address the protection that is needed and a no-take or a no-activity area is not necessary or not essential to every protection or conservation objective.
On February 6th, 2018. See this statement in context.