Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to our witnesses for appearing here this morning.
Ms. Perry, it's good to see you again this morning. We spent a bit of time together yesterday at the Halifax airport. That didn't work out so well for you, as you had to go back to St. John's. Again, thank you for making yourself available today.
We've heard from several witnesses, from people involved in the industry and from fishermen. We've heard from representatives of unions and people who want to be in a union.
Here's my first question. One of the witnesses, a Mr. Roy Careen from Point Lance, explained his enterprise as a fisherman, as a business person. He has to use four vessels to catch whatever his quota might be. He explained that for tuna, for example, he and his son each get in a boat, they go to Nova Scotia, and they use both boats to catch 12 or 13 tuna, whatever the maximum is of his tags for that.
Can somebody explain to me why he would need to use four boats in an enterprise that he owns and operates as a business person, and why DFO as a department dictates through policy or regulations that in order to do the fishing that he's doing it requires him to have four separate vessels?