I think the barrier felt by a lot of the people we work with on the coast is the very large corporate lobby. There is another opinion out there, and I'm sure you will hear about it at some point during the hearings. I hope you remember these testimonies, because you will probably hear people say, and probably have heard people say, that things are fine.
We're saying that if you are actually in the community, if you go out to the community, if you actually hit the docks in Prince Rupert, Ucluelet, Bella Bella, and you go into Ahousat, the conditions are not good for harvesters. Docks are crumbling. Boats are crumbling. That sounds like an anecdote, but you just have to go there to see it. That's where we both are, and we know that to be true.