Evidence of meeting #1 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 43rd Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreed.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Johns.

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Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

We support the amendment to the motion.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

All those in favour of the amendment?

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Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Mr. Chair, I'd like to ask a question.

Perhaps it is because of the French version, but I am wondering about the first paragraph, where two elements seem contradictory to me. We are asking for a debate on in camera proceedings, but then we list conditions for it to be behind closed doors. It is one or the other. I do not know if I am the only one who understands it that way.

It says: “visant à siéger à huis clos puisse faire l'objet d'un débat”, but there are also very specific conditions to be respected for the committee to meet in camera, which are listed in paragraphs (d), (e), and (f). That should in fact be corrected in the French version so that it says (a), (b) and (c).

Does this mean that we may also debate points contained in (a), (b), and (c)? It's as though we were saying that we can debate them, but at the same time, that we cannot.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, it should be (a), (b), (c).

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Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

That is not my main topic.

Mr. Chair, may I repeat my question?

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Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Madam Gill, could you clarify?

I am simply trying to understand your point of view.

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Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

The text on in camera proceedings begins with:

That any motion to go in camera should be debatable [...]

Oh, it's the motion. I had misread the French. I thought it was the in camera proceedings as such that could be debated.

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Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Okay.

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Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

It's all right, I withdraw my objection...

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

All those in favour of the amendment?

(Amendment agreed to)

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

I would appreciate it if members could make every attempt to be here on time in the future. The odd time I may get here right on the button, but that doesn't happen very often. We only have a certain amount of time, especially when we have witnesses, and you want to ask questions. I would like to get started on time every day. I don't like starting when members are missing, but if they are missing, we will start without those members present if we have a quorum.

The meeting is adjourned.

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