It's both. We have a massive herring die-off going on right now in the Queen Charlotte Strait. I know DFO is not researching it, but I'm trying to take samples. We also have the industry catching a large number of them. Again, if we use the genomic science, we could find out exactly what the problems are. There's really no need to guess anymore.
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