I wouldn't want to tar every advisory process with the same brush, but I'll describe it this way. In the north 10, 15 or 20 years ago, DFO and the fishing industry would get together for breakfast. We would sit around a table, in no particular order, and we would have an exchange of ideas and formulate plans.
Skip forward to within the last five years, and they no longer are allowed to have a coffee with us. We have to go into their office. They sit on one side of the table, we sit on the other, and it's much more confrontational. But there's a clear line: they are them and we are us.
The complaint I hear most often from my colleagues, as well as fishermen, is that DFO people do not return their phone calls, emails or texts. They don't make announcements when they say they're going to. There's just a sense of a disconnect, and I get it that they want things to be the way they were, but—