Yes, I know, so it is a deficit that it's operating at if you look year over year.
We're talking about the people who are being affected by it. We're hearing that a lot of the recreation, sport and commercial fishers want to mark all hatchery fish. What's the roadblock on doing that? Clearly, they're doing the hard work of making sure those fish come back. They're not even asking for more fish to be enhanced. They're talking about marking all the fish and being able to retain the hatchery fish at sea. Can you speak to that?