Evidence of meeting #6 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl

12:10 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

I am not necessarily talking about four hours in a row. We could split it into two meetings. The important thing is to have four hours in the weeks we meet.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, so you are proposing that we do two extra meetings. Either your amendment is adding two hours onto the two meetings per month that Mr. Johns has proposed in his original motion or it's adding two more meetings at two hours each. That is your suggestion.

12:10 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

That is exactly right.

We have four weeks when we were supposed to meet for two hours each week. That gives us a total of eight hours of meeting time.

Personally, I would add two hours each week, for a total of 16 hours. I did not specify the details in the motion, because it was spontaneous, but we could have four consecutive hours or two meetings of two hours.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mel, when you're ready.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Mr. Chair, I agree with Madam Gill. We should at least be able to commit, as committee members, to eight hours per month. That would be four two-hour meetings per month.

I would agree with an amendment to Mr. Johns' motion that the committee meet a minimum of four times per month for the months of July and August, as well as meet two times per week until the end of June.

12:10 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, if you want, we can maybe discuss this to make sure that we are on the same page.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay. We'll suspend for a moment.

Welcome back, everyone.

I just want to make sure everybody understands exactly what has taken place with the amendments.

From Madam Gill, basically the amendment is to increase from four hours a month to 16 hours a month, regardless of how we, as a committee, decide afterwards to do that, whether it's extended hours or extended days or extra days. No?

Madam Gill.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

The motion calls for a total of eight hours of meetings per month. Rather than holding two meetings per month of two hours, I propose that we hold two meetings per month of four hours, for a total of 16 hours for July and August.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, with a total of 16 hours per month.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Mr. Johns suggested two two-hour meetings per month, making four hours per month. I suggest two four-hour meetings per month, for a total of eight hours per month. We would therefore meet for a total of 16 hours in July and August. That is one eight-hour workday per month, if you count it in days.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, this could be worked out either in two meetings at four hours or four meetings at two hours. Okay, so now we've understood.

We'll vote on the amendment first. The amendment would be that we do a total of eight hours for the month of July and eight hours for the month of August.

Nancy, would you record the vote, please.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Before we vote, I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Beech.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

I just want to make sure we're all very clear.

If we accept the current amendment, it would be for eight hours of meetings at a meeting schedule to be determined by us after this vote, or how is that going to be determined?

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, we would have to determine that after this vote when we determine how many meetings we would have going forward for the schedule.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

The total hours that we're voting on in this amendment per month for July and August would be...?

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Eight hours per month, which would be a total of 16 hours combined.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Thank you.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Nancy, when you're ready.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

I would like to remind members that there's no debate during a vote. It's just a yea or a nay, so let's stick with that, please.

Now we go back to the main motion by Mr. Johns, which I think we all understand as two meetings per month for July and August.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will move on to further business, and discuss the dates we would sit. Somebody brought that up earlier.

Does anybody have any suggestions?

Mr. Beech.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

I'm open to whatever is good for the committee, but I would suggest perhaps the same days as hybrid Parliament, if that works for everybody.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Battiste.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Jaime Battiste Liberal Sydney—Victoria, NS

That works for me, yes.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Nancy, you had your hand up.

12:20 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, I would like to clarify that when it comes to the schedule of the committee, the members have to be in touch with their whips. Some work has to be done with the whips of the committees and with the resources of the House to see when there are availabilities and when it is possible to meet.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

If everybody is in agreement, can we leave this until next week so we can talk to the House leadership to see what dates they propose are better for the committee when we sit in July and August? Mr. Arnold has indicated that he is okay with that. Is everybody else okay with it?

Hearing no dissent, I'll assume that's good to go. We'll get that schedule ironed out, although it doesn't have to be done right away, as it's not until July and August.

Ms. Gill.