Evidence of meeting #10 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was enforcement.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bernie Berry  President, Coldwater Lobster Association
Alan Clarke   South West Nova Scotia Area Chief of Enforcement, Department of Fisheries and Oceans (Retired), As an Individual
Richard Williams  Research Director, Canadian Council of Professional Fish Harvesters
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

I think we should proceed with the meeting, certainly in light of the concerns from our last meeting where many committee members were urging the committee to move on to its next study. I would like to have some more time on the current one. If time is of the essence, let's take advantage of every second of it.

I think this is an economic update. It's not a budget, which normally has everyone in the House. If people feel strongly about it, they could always sub out and go to the other event instead, should they choose to.

Thank you.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Does anybody else want to speak to it?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

I agree with Mr. Williamson. If somebody wanted to follow the economic statement, they could sub out.

We want to wrap this up. We've been hearing very good testimony from witnesses, and we do have to move on to the salmon one.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Johns, you had your hand up.

5 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Yes. Is there any chance we can schedule the FOPO meeting a little bit later and that way we could have a chance to hear the opening at least? It's at four o'clock. It's just that a lot of us are carrying many critical files, so it's important to be present, or at least understand—

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay. I'll ask Nancy what the schedule looks like on Monday, Mr. Johns. She will probably be able to give us some information on that.

5 p.m.

The Clerk

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I am looking at the calendar and, if I'm not mistaken, after Monday's meetings, two committees are meeting after us. The Special Committee on Canada-China Relations and another one. Normally, when votes are held, the committee has the right to extend its meeting a little bit and the others start theirs shortly after that. However, for something other than votes, I believe the agreement is to vacate the room for other committees.

I will look into it.

5 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

We're okay. We're with everyone then.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, so hearing nothing else, we'll say that the committee will go ahead on Monday as per normal.

5 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Good.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I saw Ms. Gill had her hand up in the participant line.

5 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Yes, I had raised my hand.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mrs. Gill, you have the floor.

5 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Yes, I did want to speak, but since I agreed with the solution, I lowered my hand.

Mr. Chair, I'd like to know if I can always raise my hand on the side. If not, I will raise it on-screen if I want to be heard.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Either works for me.

5 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Perfect.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

It's just that I didn't have the participants up at that particular time, but I do now.

5 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Thank you.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

In the restarting of the Pacific salmon, we need to establish how many more meetings we need to have with witnesses. Of course as I mentioned two days ago, the House calendar ends on December 11 with regard to our committee. That leaves us Monday's meeting, which is November 30. We then have Wednesday, December 2; Monday, December 7 and Wednesday, December 9. We actually have four meetings.

We need to know if we want one more full meeting to finish up the witnesses on the moderate livelihood. We put one more meeting towards that, so we'll do that on Monday, November 30 if we can get witnesses to agree to come.

Then we have three meetings left. Are we going to do our drafting instructions for the moderate livelihood study, or will we just go into salmon for the last three meetings?

Seeing no comment, I guess we'll leave it up to the chair to decide and notify you accordingly as to what we'll do.

5 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I see people actually nodding to that, and thumbs up. Okay. I'm in charge. That's wonderful.

I'll discuss that with the clerk.

As well, if we're going to start the Pacific salmon study, we need to set a deadline for witnesses for that particular study. I believe Nancy has issued an outline of witnesses and whatnot for the Pacific salmon Big Bar study. Does everybody have their copy of that?

We have to know when to start. If we wait until Monday, December 7, that means that on Wednesday, December 2 we could deal with clearing up the drafting instructions.

No? Okay. Then we will start that on the Monday.

All right. We'll start with witnesses for Wednesday, December 2, so we need a very quick deadline in order to get those witnesses presented to the clerk. What if I say 5:00 p.m. Eastern time on Friday this week, November 27? Is everybody okay with finishing up with the witnesses for the Pacific salmon on Friday, November 27?

5 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Other than that, is there any other business anybody wants to raise? I didn't think this was going to go as quickly and as smoothly.

Madam Gill.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Mr. Chair, forgive me, sometimes I have trouble keeping up due to the time lag. Were you hearing all the motions? If we have reached the one about seals, great.

I'm ready to present it. Did you want me to do it now?