I want you to talk a little bit about this, notwithstanding Captain Temple's assertions that it doesn't make sense to build up hatchery capacity without having the habitat in place. I think you and I had a frank conversation, and could you remind me of what your thoughts might be about the department's current...I'm not going to say attitude but a word that might be synonymous with attitude.... Towards community-based hatcheries, whether those hatcheries are there for scientific use, for stock replenishment or for restoring breeding stock, is the department actually respecting the knowledge of the local community hatcheries and using them adequately, or could that be improved?