Well, I hope that's not true. What I said is that I'm not aware of anyone who has been directly engaged in any of those discussions. I was with the Department of Fisheries and Oceans for 30 years as one of their lead scientists on that, and under the Salmon Foundation, I talk to people throughout B.C. I have to admit, as I was just saying to people yesterday, that I am a bit surprised I haven't heard about the consultation, because this could be a big, big effort. As I said very clearly, many, many people are concerned, so I sincerely hope that they have consulted widely with first nations and other user groups. I just have to admit that I simply don't know any who have.