Maybe I could start again, gentlemen. I think the best example is in Russia. They have a very large pink and chum hatchery program. In 2000 they lost 40% of their catch in one year. Their hatcheries didn't change in any way, but the ocean environment was so much different that the fish returning had much lower survival rates.
Your original question was really about interaction or mixing among different hatchery groups in the Pacific. If that is the case, maybe we'll see a little bit better return to Canada. My expectation, from looking at many populations, is that we will not, because there's a common factor in the North Pacific. It has been very poor for our fish and for their fish.
Once the ocean changes, it's pretty much unavoidable.