Yes, definitely, that's what we've been saying for years. Because of the disaggregate management that's going on in the Fraser, it's already been a hindrance and a contributory to the decline. A lot of the stocks are past hope.
There's a saying, and the phrase is kind of sad, that “There's no hope past hope.” A lot of times you say it in terms of the management of the stocks. A lot of these upper Fraser stocks have to get through those mixed-stock fisheries. Early Stuart travel with chinook, and there are a lot of chinook fisheries. A lot of times, later in the year as well, if there are chum fisheries, then that has an effect on late-run sockeye. The mixed-stock fisheries and the aggregate management are definitely issues.