Yes, that's the direction we headed. The numbers that I shared earlier show that we're reaching the point of extinction on two of these cycles, with fewer than 100 returning sockeye on two of the runs—oh, man. As Jason Hwang was saying, the point is not to create fish so that we can go fishing; it's basically just to conserve these runs and keep them from going extinct. Conservation-based hatcheries and small-scale hatcheries—just to keep the run alive, basically—are what we're trying to do right now. We're just pedalling in the water right now, trying to keep these fish alive. That's where we're at.
On May 5th, 2021. See this statement in context.