My question is for Mr. Haskell.
First of all, I'm coming to you from Eskasoni Mi'kmaq community. We heard the testimony in this study back in the summer about the importance of salmon for indigenous peoples in British Columbia, both for cultural reasons and for subsistence. In Mi'kmaq country, we have some of the same issues with climate change affecting salmon stocks.
There's a fascinating documentary right now on APTN called Gespe'gewa'gi that looks at the fisheries management in Listuguj, Quebec, where they're taking a lead role as an indigenous community in facilitating the hatcheries. They captured it on video. I thought what they were doing was amazing.
I heard you talk about a bit of reluctance about about the hatcheries. I wonder what you're hearing from indigenous communities on the west coast about hatcheries and their productivity. As well, if it's not hatcheries, what does indigenous knowledge teach us about best practices to restore the salmon stocks?