There was actually no movement, in my opinion, because.... I was a part of the transition from the PCs to the Liberals. There was some, but when we started talking about treaty-related measures and coming back to the table and trying to discuss the implementation of our rights, there was really no movement there. There was just enough to justify to say there was contact made by government with the Mi'kmaq of Nova Scotia.
Since then it really hasn't moved, since I've been a part of this. It's gotten more structured. There has been a lot more movement from current court decisions, and it becomes consultation and other stuff that's being placed in our region. It shouldn't have to come from the courts to express that. There should have been an open dialogue many years ago. I think 21 years is way too long for anybody, and it's been both governments....