I'll go first, Al, if that's okay.
With regard to moderate livelihood, there is a concept; it's not really about a definition. That's unfortunately what takes over discussion. Until you have a process where people can actually work together to drive that concept...I hate to call it a “definition” because a definition is limiting. A livelihood concept is about the ability to support oneself spiritually, culturally, economically, socially. It's more than making money to people.
I think that's something missing in people's concept of what a moderate livelihood is. Sure, you can make money, but there are more things to consider. I think that defining it will limit it. Then once you limit it, we're really not sure how you can achieve it. I think it's more important to figure out how you can work together to govern a livelihood fishery than it is to put a definition to the term “moderate livelihood”.