Thank you again, both of you, for your important testimony.
We often hear about how indigenous knowledge around conservation is neglected by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, especially in relation to conservation. Maybe you can speak about the importance of that changing, the importance of investing and capacity building within the nations and how you enforce your own management plans.
Chief Gray, I know you have a ranger program, the Listuguj. Maybe you can speak about it.