Our experience with DFO has been a relationship over many decades. We've had some issues in the past. We've had issues more recently, but at the end of the day, we try to work together and try to come to some kind of common ground.
As my colleague Kevin Squires mentioned earlier, the number one thing to consider is communication, dialogue. As soon as these break down, that is when you get issues in whatever fisheries management problems you're working on, whether whales or anything else related to species management.