Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I would like to start again at the point that Ms. Bernard got to.
As I really like people putting themselves in ministers' shoes, I will ask you what steps you feel that Minister Jordan and the government should be taking.
What are the first steps that you would like to see taken? A huge number have not been taken over the last 21 years, maybe longer. What would you like to see?
Of course, my questions also go to Mr. Ginnish.