I really appreciate that, and certainly your talking about young people learning about treaties and section 35 rights, but we've had several non-indigenous fishing organizations appear before this committee and assert that they have the right to be at the table when the Mi'kmaq nation and the federal government discuss the moderate livelihood fishery. However, few of those who appeared could discuss any meaningful reconciliation plans or anti-racism strategies they've adopted. Can you speak to any successful programs that you've seen to bridge that communication gap between non-indigenous and indigenous fishers? If so, how were such programs implemented?
Could you also address the understanding that both ministers, including Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations, should be meeting with that nation on a nation-to-nation basis and that they are representing the fishers?