I think, number one, there is still a lot of racism on the ground. I'm not sure how many non-indigenous fishers hire indigenous fishers to fish with them. It sometimes goes the other way around in terms of licence leasing.
Again I say that we do have to support the moderate livelihood fishery to continue in a way that doesn't jeopardize the resource, but we have to look across all of it. It's not just fisheries that Mi'Kmaq should have a right to. There is forestry. There are other resources. Really, across our economy we need to open up and think about how we do much more labour inclusion. We have not done that.
I think the recent purchase of Clearwater by the Mi'Kmaq is a signal that they're going to go big, right? We still have people in adjacent communities who sometimes will not hire first nations. We need to get through that. It's a fundamental problem of racism, in my mind.