Maybe I'll give you an example. When the Government of Canada committed to protecting 10% of its coastal and ocean environment in 2015, I heard that at every single fisheries advisory committee meeting that I went to, every single one.
I will say that I have never heard it said—until maybe more recently—that this is what the Marshall decision is, this is how we're going to start to consider it when we think about fisheries science and management, this is how we're moving forward on moderate livelihood plans with indigenous fishers, and this is how it links to conservation harvesting plans that are put forward by the non-indigenous fishery. There are many practical ways that it could have been advanced, and it wasn't done.
Again, I just think that stating that “we are going to implement Marshall and this is what we think it could look like”.... I have not heard that at fisheries management advisory committee meetings, if that's specific enough.