Okay, we'll go back to the witnesses.
Actually, we have to go to our next panel of witnesses now, because we've gone almost an hour. If you recall, it's 45 minutes, 45 minutes and 30 minutes of business. We've had business up to this point.
I want to say thank you to Mr. Gotch and Mr. Shoemaker for providing their knowledge to the committee today as we start this study.
Hopefully we'll see you again sometime in the future.
We'll suspend for a few moments to change the panels.