Thank you, Ms. Barron. You've done a great job with the second attempt. Thank you for acknowledging the name. It has a long history behind it.
Tyrone spoke about UNDRIP and reconciliation. I would suggest that the governments are challenged with trying to implement it. I think we all are. Let's face it, we don't exactly know what the interpretation is or what the implementation will be, and I think that's our challenge. From my short time with fisheries, about 12 years, we've seen various portions of it being implemented—obviously in the last three years or four years anyway.
The challenge we see as first nations is that government comes from a siloed perspective. That hopefully doesn't sound too critical, but that's the way it is. If we want to go talk about fish, it's not just one ministry, it's probably five or six ministries, and we might get different answers from each different ministry or each different bureaucrat or each different operational person at that scale. That's our challenge.
I even see local jurisdictions committing to implementation of the act. Everybody is at different scales and different times of implementation. I think that's our challenge together. But the challenge we have is not having first nations at the table today, and that's where we need traction with government.
Thank you for the question.