Evidence of meeting #110 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was work.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Annette Gibbons  Deputy Minister, Department of Fisheries and Oceans

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Tell me.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

I would be happy to. What is included in section 33 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the notwithstanding clause.

Talk about gaslighting Canadians. Talk about misrepresenting not just what the Leader of the Opposition says, because one could say that is a political argument that can be fleshed out in debate.... No. What the Liberals are doing is truly misrepresenting what the charter says.

What's interesting is that even in question period today, the foreign affairs minister, Minister Joly, stood up in the House of Commons and said that no judge would stand in the way of her pursuing an agenda.

What's very fascinating is that while the Liberals are trying to score cheap political points misrepresenting what the Leader of the Opposition says, and trying to deface what the charter says, one of their own senior Liberal cabinet ministers is out, speaking about the possibility that she would provide leadership herself to invoke the notwithstanding clause. That is hypocrisy at its absolute height.

This Liberal government breaks records on a regular basis. They're certainly not records that most Canadians are proud of, whether they be record overdoses, as we were debating in the House of Commons today, or record debt. There are so many. There's the corruption, the crime and the chaos.

Specifically, because we're talking about the charter—this is very relevant to the issue at hand, and I hope Mr. Kelloway takes note of this—there is one government in Canadian history that has willfully ignored and taken away the charter rights of Canadians.

Mr. Chair, do you know what government that is? Well, it's the Liberal government led by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

What was the name of the other guy?

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

I'll get to the War Measures Act, but this is the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I'm sorry but your time is up.

The meeting is suspended.

[The meeting was suspended at 5:45 p.m., Thursday, May 9]

[The meeting resumed at 3:39 p.m., Tuesday, May 21]

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Welcome to part two of meeting number 110 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans; this is the continuation of the meeting on May 9 that was suspended.

This meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the Standing Orders.

Before we begin, I would like to ask all members and other in-person participants to consult the cards on the table for guidelines to prevent audio feedback incidents. Please take note of the following preventive measures in place to protect the health and safety of all participants, including our interpreters. Only use a black, approved earpiece; the former grey earpieces must no longer be used. Keep your earpiece away from all microphones at all times. When you are not using your earpiece, place it face down on the sticker on the table for this purpose. Thank you all for your co-operation.

We are now continuing the debate on Mr. Kelloway's motion, which was suspended on May 9. I'm using the speakers list of members who had raised their hands to speak at the last meeting in order to resume the debate.

We'll go to Mr. Kurek.

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Thank you very much, Chair.

As I had highlighted before the meeting was suspended, there's a lot that I would certainly be happy to talk about in regard to this motion, but in the meantime, I would move to adjourn debate.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 4)

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Arnold, please go ahead.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to move that we go in camera and continue with our review of version one of the IUU report.

(Motion agreed to)

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I'll suspend for a moment while we switch over to in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]