They're adequate for our uses, but none of them are anything formal that we need to do. Do you know what I mean? I don't know what kind of process the federal government uses in identifying VOCs, but I know from working with our first nations partners, such as Snuneymuxw First Nation, that they go out there regularly to do a check on boats after big rains. They know all the vessels that need to be removed or the ones that are going to sink. They become way more costly to remove as soon as they sink. You just put the bill up twofold or threefold, because now you're looking at divers, a barge, a crane and all this stuff.
Building out that framework, giving the ability for first nations to govern their territories and steward them properly and having that MOU and training and framework and everything else that goes along with creating this plan is the necessary first step, I think, to really bolstering the VOC. We don't see enforcement out in B.C., or not on the west coast or the Salish Sea where I've worked, anyway. I think we need it.