Evidence of meeting #13 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was containers.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Chris Henderson  Deputy Commissioner, Operations, Canadian Coast Guard
Martin McKay  Executive Director, Legislative, Regulatory and International Affairs, Marine Safety and Security, Department of Transport
Jonathan Brickett  Regional Director, Incident Management, Western Region, Canadian Coast Guard
Naim Nazha  Executive Director, Navigation Safety and Environmental Programs, Marine Safety and Security, Department of Transport
François Marier  Director, International Marine Policy, Department of Transport
Stafford Reid  Environmental Emergency Planner and Analyst, EnviroEmerg Consulting
Ben Boulton  Field Operations Manager, Rugged Coast Research Society

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Environmental Emergency Planner and Analyst, EnviroEmerg Consulting

Stafford Reid

I was hired by the Council of the Haida Nation to develop a marine exercise that represented something that needed to be done. There were high risks. It became quite obvious that it was the container vessel traffic in B.C. Because of its growth and the nature of container vessels, the high-drift rate requirements were very high and tug interventions could be needed, as well as places to refuge.

I put in about three months putting a whole marine exercise together. This was supposed to have been a collaborative endeavour by the Council of the Haida Nation, Transport Canada and the Canadian Coast Guard. Right at the very end, about a week before the entire exercise, all that work was thrown to one side and the whole exercise was converted to a marine oil spill. That was the comfort zone of the Canadian Coast Guard.

The Coast Guard wasn't prepared to get their minds wrapped around all of these issues that are being talked about today, such as being able to do aerial field observations to determine where the debris is; applying the shoreline cleanup assessment techniques, or SCAT, which is my expertise; managing a workforce; providing the right notifications and engagements for local communities; what not to do, such as not coming on the beach; and having safety training. That's just the scope of the issues. It never went anywhere. It was turned into another oil spill exercise, like we've been doing for probably the last 30 years.

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NDP

Lisa Marie Barron NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Thank you, Mr. Reid.

My question next is for Mr. Boulton.

I'm wondering—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you, Ms. Barron.

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NDP

Lisa Marie Barron NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Four minutes go quickly. Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, four minutes are not long when you're asking questions.

I want to thank our witnesses for appearing before the committee today, albeit virtually, for their time and testimony here today. It is valuable information as we do this study.

I will now recess for a few moments to allow us to go from public to in camera.

Again, thank you for your time.

[Proceedings continue in camera]