I want to pick up on the sandwich comment. Do you know what you call a wish sandwich? It's when you have two pieces of bread and you wish you had some fish.
This is where we're at when we talk about the true status of salmon in British Columbia. When we talk about tier one, that is where we need to see the investment so first nations are resourced to gather, have discussions and reach an understanding.
I have great issue with tier two. I participated in 2009-10 with the First Nations Fisheries Council in the tier two exercise. In the discussions, negotiations, proposals and contracts, it was stated that this was not consultation. At the end of that process, everything that I did with the Fisheries Council landed in front of a judge for a judicial review with our nation, and they called it consultation. That is a misuse of the engagement process, and that does not build trust.
We need to have a venue and the resources. If the Crown has an interest in progress on this, we need to find the resources so first nations can have fulsome, technically informed, political discussions that aren't going to happen in one quarter of the year. It's going to take time and sustained resources to do it. We can then have a measure of unity, politically and technically, to sit down with you and have a substantive discussion. Solely turning to the AAROM bodies to the exclusion of ones that don't have that doesn't work; it just furthers the division.